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Todays show:

Pie.org’s Ryan Hudson joins Jason to discuss consumer behavior (5:57 ), Honey’s business strategy (10:47 ), Pie’s consumer ad control (14:20 ), legal considerations of ad blocking (27:21 ), and more!

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Timestamps:

(0:00 ) Pie.org’s Ryan Hudson joins Jason

(2:30 ) History and initial reactions to Honey

(5:57 ) Consumer behavior, trust, and conversion rates

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(10:43 ) Merchant reactions and Honey's business strategy

(14:20 ) Future of Pie and consumer ad control

(17:50 ) Demo of Pie browser extension

(20:35 ) Economic implications of ad blocking

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(28:34 ) Legal considerations of ad blocking

(30:20 ) Apple's privacy stance and ad reintroduction strategies

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(37:50 ) Funding decisions and advice for young founders

(43:40 ) Company values and political engagement

(49:08 ) Remote work and the value of in-person interactions

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